Meghan Markle speaks with pal Serena Williams as she releases long-awaited Spotify podcast after massive £18m deal | The Sun

THE long-awaited first episode of Meghan Markle's Spotify podcast Archetypes has dropped.

The Duchess of Sussex chats with her pal Serena Williams in the first episode titled 'The Misconception of Ambition'.


In the 57 minute-long show, Meghan and Serena discuss "the double standard women face when they are labelled 'ambitious'", the description reads.

The "ground-breaking" episode also features conversations with "leading expert on gender" Dr Laura Kray, it adds.

Meghan opens the podcast by stating: "When I was 11 years old, growing up in LA, I saw a commercial that would change the way I understood my place in the world.

"Let me be clear: it wasn’t because this ad was some kind of ingenious piece of marketing – actually, it was just the opposite.

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"So, here’s what happened: I was in the 6th grade, I was sitting in my classroom – and we were watching TV, when a commercial came on."

The audio from the Ivory Dish Soap Commercial then plays.

Meghan famously appeared in a 1993 Nick News segment addressing the advert – saying it "hurt my feelings".

She goes on to say: "Hi, I’m Meghan. And this is ARCHETYPES – my podcast about the labels and tropes that try to hold women back.

"Over the course of the next dozen episodes, we’re going to live inside and rip apart the boxes women have been placed into for generations – boxes like diva, crazy, the b-word, sl**.

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"Some of these words – these labels – are harsh; they’re abrasive. And I want to get to the bottom of where they come from, why they’ve stuck around for so long, and – importantly – how we can move past them."

Today's podcast comes almost two years after Harry and Meghan signed an £18million podcast project with audio giant Spotify.

In January, Spotify took the project "into its own hands" by hiring a host of in-house producers to help deliver content.

Spotify said it was looking forward to a "full-scale" launch of shows in 2021 – but nothing appeared.

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Before this episode, Harry and Meghan's only podcast effort was a 35-minute "holiday special" in December 2020, featuring celebrity pals such as Elton John and James Corden.

Fans had been questioning when their so-called "full-scale launch" of episodes would be coming.

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